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Re: Chat thread :)
« Reply #255 on: January 26, 2016, 10:16:41 pm »
I would definitely love to tune in to some No. 6 live streams. Keep us posted!

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« Reply #256 on: January 27, 2016, 02:06:35 am »
Ok, now I'm in work. I'm keeping my internet post open since I'm sending many documents and graphic projects to my superior. Just few moments ago I noticed new message and checked it. I brusted in laugher as I read new message topic:

"Save the bees"

Well, Shion wouldn't be very happy even with his love for ecology XDD. (Thought those were rather wasps, but bees too always makes me laugh, like one mini comic with Nezumi "Honey, I'm home" XD)
 

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« Reply #257 on: January 29, 2016, 09:46:10 am »
Haha, I guess Shion is not really afraid of wasps and bees now (even though it's kinda funny)... but he also touched that dead wasp he found when he was outside with Nezumi. He's badass! XD
And he didn't seem to be scared when they met Elyurias... (I would run like hell if I saw a 2 meter big rainbow wasp XD)

Especially as an ecologist, he should know that bees are very, very important...or even essential for the ecosystem. o.o

Ah, but a livestream sounds great. :D Would you stream the Japanese or English version, Weisel?

Btw. my fandub group still works on 2 different No. 6 clips. XD I'm planning one of them, it's the Manhunt clip and I'm Lili and Baby Shionn. ^^ Wanna see a sneak preview? Here:

http://ahikusblog.tumblr.com/private/138283227947/tumblr_o1q1ibc1an1tk0ro8

The takes for Karan are still missing. <.< I guess I have to ask someone else. She's not even answering. She had 4 weeks or so, this is enough time for 2 short sentences and 3 little noises.

I like Nezumi...his voice is a little higher and he sounds younger than the original one. XD The manager sounds too young, but... well, I think he's doing a good job... (I think it's cute XD) and Shion... well, Shion. *sighs* Not quite happy...although I gave him directions (I even recorded directions). But he's new and inexperienced, so it's okay. ^^
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« Reply #258 on: January 29, 2016, 12:01:50 pm »
Aaaahhh I really want to listen, but I'm on mobile... Maybe the cafe across the street will leave their wifi on again. I want to hear Nezumi with a fitting voice.

Speaking of which, I'll be streaming the Japanese version because the English version makes me cry. In pain, that is. Nezumi sounds so... I don't know what word to use. And Shion sounds like an annoying eight year old with a cold. And the names... Ri-KEE-guh! Ya-MAH-say! *screams*

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« Reply #259 on: January 29, 2016, 12:05:52 pm »
Wow Ahiku, I rather always don't like any re-dubs (and after english Xenosaga ep2 I started to hate them) but I think you guys made a lot good job. At first I thought that it's kinda strange when Shion sounds a little more manly than Nezumi XD but at scene when Nezumi shouts I really like it. The worst thing in redubs is when characters don't show enough emotions.

I only see one scene from english NO.6, it was one when Shion kills a man and I didn't like it. Person who dubbed Nezumi don't show enough emotions, I don't remember what I thought about Shion, but I don't think it was good either.     

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« Reply #260 on: January 29, 2016, 01:11:32 pm »
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Thanks :)  We always try our best and there were a lot of people in our group who really became voice actors. (And left the team... I guess I also have to leave the team soon... It seems as if I get another bigger role in a series. Recordings will in February. I don't know the details yet, but apparently it's an anime. But when I wanna continue this professionally, even if it's just every now and then, I have to stop fandubbing, because the dub studios have a problem with fandubbers. ^^° I try to keep it secret when they book me, though.)

Well, the dude who voices Shion in my clip was the one who started a No. 6 clip first. (A small part of the first episode...) He even asked me to coach him, but then he didn't really listen to me. o_o° (I wanted him to sound higher and a bit cuter when he's a kid. And maybe also a bit more naive when he's older.)
He still needs a lot of practice...some takes are very wishy-washy, and he just can't express that much with his voice yet. When he's panicked or when he's screaming... it's always as if he tries to scream silently...just as if he's afraid someone might hear him. ^^°  (And that's why he chose the scene in which Shion screams on his balcony. ^^°°°°°)  Ah wait...he uploaded the clip. (Not the final version... the voices are not properly mixed yet and some sound effects are missing...)

https://vid.me/XN04

I told him he should voice Shion the way he voiced him when Nezumi chokes him... Oh and I chose another girl for Karan... ^^° I told him that this is a miscast, but he won't listen... *siiiiighs* Meo said she doesn't sound as if she loves Shion at all. X'D I think she sounds way too young.

Buuut I like Nezumi. :D (Ok, that dude is a pretty good voice actor. He also sang that little male part of the opening for me when I made a German version of it ^^)

Oh yeah...the English dub was not so cool. X'D I liked Shion sometimes. But especially in the first episode I just wanted to hit him in the face lol. X'D
AH, but Safu and Inukashi are not bad. Lili could have a cuter voice. I don't really remember Karan anymore, but I think she was okay. o.o



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« Reply #261 on: January 29, 2016, 01:38:16 pm »
@Ahiku
You are right, this scream of Shion, it sounds kinda strange, I can't place it but it feel pushed and it should end like Shion ran from breath, it miss this "get out all the pain" feeling. But this person have good moments too, whole talk when Shion is patching up Nezumi is kind good.

Still I can't shake feeling of watching Digimon while hearing German dub XD I watched a lot of anime while being kid and it was mostly Digimon on RTL2 in your langue and now hearing it again in anime feels kida strange XD, not in bad way of course.   

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« Reply #262 on: January 29, 2016, 01:59:24 pm »
Yeah, their conversation is not bad, but some things could be better and it's a bit sad that he won't listen to me... I'm just a **** fan of this series... X'D And I just do fandubs since 2008... so yeah, don't listen to me when I give you tips and directions. <_<°

Oh really, you watched Digimon in German? Do you understand German? A little bit? I dunno if I could watch a series when I don't understand a word.
Ah, I loved Digimon... It's one of my fav childhood series. (Ok, teenager...I was not really a child anymore back then. x.x *is old*)  I liked it more than Pokémon.
Back then they showed so many anime on TV... Now...maybe some private channels, but I don't have any of them, because I don't wanna pay extra (usually I don't have much time to watch TV ^^° I could need it now, though. I watch a bit more atm, since I'm still sick... (next week is gonna be the 4th week x,x))
RTL2 doesn't show anime anymore... they just show horrible TV shows for jobless people. ^^° You just wanna hit your head against a wall when you have to watch this ****.

Back then I watched almost everything... Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Meitantei Conan (my favorite), Digimon, Pokemon, Doremi, Ranma 1/2... And the dubs were never bad. XD
Oh, I didn't watch Sailor Moon and YuGiOh... (just a couple of episodes, since I had a mini role in one of them.)
So yeah, shame on me. I never liked Sailor Moon. X'D I just know some episodes, because my friends loved to make Sailor Moon fandubs.
They made me voice Ami... We even dubbed a 15-minute special episode. o_o° 
*throws another link*



This...is actually my lowest & most mature voice. X'D

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« Reply #263 on: January 29, 2016, 02:57:27 pm »
@Ahiku
Well, I remember I got most of plot, not all, maybe like 40% in Digimon, since it had more complex story than Pokemon or Yu-gi-oh, but still I loved it. I remember that half year after I finished it they released Digimon in my Polish TV.

They don't show anime anymore? WOW O_O I'm surprised, it was like anime heaven all those years ago. I remember watching Kamikaze Kaito Jeane, Yu-gi-oh (that one was easy I choose this monster, oh nien! Now I got this card and I will win buahahaha etc. XD)
I had 3 years of German langue in primary school but teacher was old, he didn't teach us much more than saying your name and where you live XD and now after all those years I think I forgot that too XD.

Well, it was hard langue for me, the same with French. Those both are similar in grammar way and needs a lot time to remember all forms of suff around us and I never had any need to learn them better (well Dutch maybe because German mangas turns out cheaper than English ones XD)

I the end I know a lot better Japanese than Deuch or French XD

         

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« Reply #264 on: January 30, 2016, 02:28:52 pm »
Ah, I really like that little clip and I'm especially impressed at your little Shion noises they're really good.
Admitting, I have long stopped watching dubs, because most of the time I really don't like them. But your fandub has a pretty balanced choice of voices, nothing that would weird me out.
I would love to offer voicing Karan, but I have no experience, no mic and it's been ages since I regularly spoke proper German, which means it would come with a hint of Swiss accent for a while. So I'd end up being too shy on top.

I don't even mind that Nezumi's voice is slightly higher than Shion's. I mean the book does decribe his voice as soft and he's supposed to be capable of sounding like a woman, so the slightly higher voice doesn't make it awkward.

And I do remember that time RTL II used to have whole afternoons of Anime, too. (Mainly because that was what my cousin was watching all the time when he visited. I hardly watched any TV until my late teens, I was too busy running around outside.) I did catch a few episodes of Pokemon with him though and I think I might have seen Yugioh too... Conan became one of my favourits a little later though - I also RPed Kaitou KID for about 5 years. But the series kind of made me loose my interest around episode 600 and something. I still love the old ones.

A friend of mine urged me to watch and read Sailor moon a while ago. As for watching I couldn't really get into it. But I have to admit the manga is much more interesting. That one I read, all of it. The manga is definitely more mature and has a lot more substance.

And I love Ranma! Ranma, InuYasha, I haven't seen Rinne yet, but I read a few chapters and thought it was a nice idea, so generally speaking I like Rumiko's style. (And my first cosplay was InuYasha, too.)

Right now... or at least about a year ago there was some anime on German VIVA.

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« Reply #265 on: February 01, 2016, 11:47:34 am »
@kare_reiko
Oh yeah, I guess Digiman was hard to understand then...I mean there's actually a story, unlike the Pokémon plot which is always the same in every episode... XD They come to another place, meet another trainer with a special Pokémon, Team Rocket is going to steal it (+Pikachu) and then they fight and they fly away... Every 200 episodes or so you have some kind of special episode which is different from the rest, like a Pokémon league or something like that. X'D

No, that channel doesn't show any anymore...they stopped it years ago. For a while, they showed anime like DBZ on Sunday morning... (lol, back then they showed it in the evening, because of the blood and the violence... but yeah, everything okay, just show it on Sunday morning when all little kids watch TV. XD)

@Kai
Ah thanks :D I don't wanna praise myself, but I guess I'm good at voicing babies, lol X'D I also did a psycho baby for a fandub a while ago... X'D That was fun.

Aw, thanks, that's kind of you to say. :) I asked someone else...the only girl with a motherly voice. The timbre is not quite fitting for Karan, but I guess it's still better than giving the role to someone with a high and young voice.

Yep, that's right... Hosoya could never sound like a woman. XD That's just not possible. >.< And he's too old for teenagers, I wonder when the Japanese people will finally learn it. I loved him so much in Death Parade, though... I mean, he's an amazing voice actor. (And it's not his fault...I mean it's not that you come and say: "Yo, I'm going to voice this or that character, because I want to. Period." You have no say when it comes to the cast, unless you're the director of that series or something. ^^°

Yeah, Conan was also one of my favs...I still like it and sometimes I watch a couple of episodes or a movie, but I don't follow everything any longer. When I got internet in my youth...I was in a Conan forum and we met each other very often (fortunately we all lived kinda close to each other XD That was pretty weird...but okay.)
That was so great. Sometimes I still meet one of the guys from back then...he was a **** fan, but even he stopped watching the series last year, because it's like chewing gum. x,x The last time I met him (last year), he ranted...because Gosho Aoyama was pretty sick, but he still doesn't want to finish the series. ^^° It actually sucks. I'm sure he doesn't even know how to finish it.

Oh yeah, I also like Rumiko Takahashi's style...and I loved Ranma 1/2 so much. Oh, but it was so sad...the German voice actor of Ranma died when he was just 22 or so. o.o Did you know that, Kai?
He fainted in the studio and then he was suddenly dead...something was wrong with his lungs.
Really horrible. 

I know that they show anime on Animaxx (?) and Pro7Maxx... but I think both channels are pay TV...well I don't have them. ^^°
You can still watch some German episodes on clipfish... legally... at least some preview episodes. XD

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My friend said it's one of the main girls, but the official cast isn't completely done yet and they can't decide between two of them... I think it could be the black-haired or pink-haired one.)
http://static.zerochan.net/Houkago.no.Pleiades.full.552657.jpg
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« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2016, 03:20:44 am »
There's nothing wrong with being proud of something you're good at. ^^

It would in theory be something I'd love to try, but probably better suited as a fun project at a con workshop or something. XD

And no, he sounds just too manly, if he could though that would be one hell of a talent. I do like his voice as well, even though I'm still very amused about him voicing Asahai in Haikyuu - I did NOT recognise his voice from Nezumi. He manages to change the quality of it according to character very well.

Japanese people tend to stick to the same voices all through, even though sometimes it's really awkward. I noticed in Naruto as well. While Naruto has a really childish, high voice that fits him well as young and slightly older teen. I snorted when I watched the last movie where he's really grown up, all buff and angular and... has that same 'chibi' voice. As for Sasuke it's the other way around his voice is a bit too deep for a 12 year old, though later it fits very well. It's not quite as bad as it is for 12 year old Nezumi though. I think that one had me far more puzzled when I watched the Anime.

I mean, I can see where this comes from on one side - wanting to give them personality with the same voice and not leting them sound differently once they mature... but yeah.

That's where I like Conan, they gave him two voice actors, the child one and the older teen/grown up. (Love that voice, Yamaguchi is one of my favourite voice actors - he also speaks KID, Ranma and InuYasha and a whole bunch more, but those we were talking about before.)

Yeah I did hear about the German voice actor of Ranma. Things can happen to everyone, no matter age and job... He also was a pretty good voice actor from what I heard.

Yeah... that's both pay TV, nothing my student budget includes. I don't even have TV anything, I only have an old PC monitor hooked up to watch DVDs.

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« Reply #267 on: February 08, 2016, 09:53:04 am »
Well, you can always try it out. ^^ When you just wanna try it, you can definitely use a cheap microphone and have a bit fun. :)

Oh yeah...I think Asahi is an exception... I mean, didn't they make fun of him because he looks so old or something like that? X'D I thought he fitted him very well. So it really depends.
And it's funny, when you hear Hosoya in audio comments, his voice is not even that deep. And he can also sound friendlier... Buuut well, Japanese people like overacting. ^^° I guess that's why he tends to voice his characters very low and angrily. X'D

Oh yeah, sometimes I really don't get the Japanese cast. X'D Females have horribly high voices... (we always tend to sound not so high in German dubs, because some people really have a problem with shrill voices lol)...
And sometimes they give female voices to males although they absolutely don't look as if they still have such a  teen voice. I think Naruto is great when he's 11...it's halfway okay when he's 16, but I guess a male voice would fit him better then. ^^°
Same for Sasuke...give him a younger voice when he's still a kid and an older voice when he's older. x.x
Why should an 11 or 12-year old sound like a 20 year old? ^^°
Same for Nezumini.
Even Kaji is kinda borderline as young Shion, if you ask me. >,< But he tried to sound a bit younger. He's a fabulous voice actor. XD

Yeah, Yamaguchi is the Kaji Yuki of the older generation LOL. X'D Back then he was in almost every series, especially main stream series... Kaito Kid, Shinichi Kudo...L (very great... the German Death Note cast is not bad and the voice actors are all very talented, but I thought some were not really fitting... and no one can beat that crazy laughing of Light in the last episode XD The Japanese dude is just too good.)
Ranma...Inuyasha... (God, I just was about to write. Inukasha X'D Inukasha is the brother of Inukashi XD)
Ryuichi Sakuma... he's absolutely crazy and gorgeous as Sakuma. XD Oh and Ussop...in One Piece. o.o Also really great. Now you can hear Kaji everywhere. XD


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« Reply #268 on: February 08, 2016, 11:10:50 am »
Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I think maybe the whole high voices vs. low voices has something to do with the language as well. Like, I speak at a lower pitch when I speak German than when I speak English, and when I'd speak Japanese (which I remember nothing of what I learned lol) it was higher than when I speak English. I don't know if it's the way the sounds are made or if it's a matter of culture (like that's just how people learned). Then again, Inukashi's VA could speak fairly low, but then when she's doing the commentary, her voice is pretty high. Are girls expected to sound young and cute there?? Anyway, I think with German, it's kinda hard to really squeak out all those consonant-heavy words, but with Japanese, there's usually a vowel separating the consonants.

I dunno, I'm not a native speaker of either language...

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« Reply #269 on: February 08, 2016, 03:27:39 pm »
Asahi is a giant and he looks mature, having a little beard and all (despite being 17, people always think he's already an adult) but he's very shy and timid and Hosoya actually carries that softness and insecurity in his voice despite not making it high. There his voice fits perfectly.

Honestly, I enjoy the guys with deeper voices, I can accept that when they're 17, too, even if it is a bit of a long shot. But really it would be nice if they switch for flashbacks to childhood at least.

Yamaguchi is just a little bit of a personal hero for me, haha. I admit, I'm old. But I also like the young ones that just started.

I never really noticed that German dubs are less shrill, save a few rare cases. But yeah, it is a Japanese thing as far as I know that high, cute voices for women is what you want. Hence popular characters usually get very 'cute' voices and many girls try to speak higher, too.

But I can't agree with German being a language for a lower voice. I do speak higher when I go for proper German compared to Swiss-German. The latter is more lazy, deeper in the throat by nature, for German I form the sounds more in my mouth to articulate cleaner. My English voice tends to be deeper than German as well. Can't judge it for Chinese, it's been a while and the quality is very much different. I think French is about the same level as German, too. Lots of sounds to refine with your tongue and teeth so it's harder to keep the vocal cords very open.

A big part of it certainly is also confidence and how used you are to a language. If it's new or rarely used you have to more consciously watch the sounds you produce/muscles you move and that automatically causes tension and the tension of the vocal chords makes a voice higher. That's also why confidence lowers the voice and nervousness can make it higher together with the posture.

Ahiku though probably has much better knowledge when it comes to that. ^^