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Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: December 13, 2016, 01:15:27 pm »
@kare_reiko: ah, yeah, I guess we have to settle for early-game when you can move Sorey just right so that he looks like he's hugging Mikleo. Hm-m.
But yeah, I'm holding out for a hug too. They can give us that much at least, right?

Ah yeah, I feel ya re: other stories interfering... it's really hard to get back in the right mindset once you're so out of it. Maybe try rereading some of the story or rereading canon?

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: December 11, 2016, 08:28:17 am »
Waited till I knew the dog was safe before catching up with Yuri on Ice, although my dash thoroughly spoiled me anyway, haha. What a good show though. I def need to rewatch episode 10 again to make sure that was actually all real, that's just amazing. Really loving the characters.

@Kare_reiko: ah - well, to be honest, Zestiria kind of has a whole lot of fantasy world issues to deal with XD; so as much as I love the relationship between Sorey and Mikleo, it's understandable that it doesn't have the focus all the time. (I ramble a lot below, so spoiler tags ahoy!)
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Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: November 27, 2016, 08:36:51 am »
@Weisel: ah geesh :/ ugh that really sucks... any chance at all it might be an easy fix? :/

@kare_reiko: Just. 'The Incident'. THIS GAME.
Yeah, either the hair barely looks different or it's - not an improvement, haha. I love playing the first part of the game in school uniform, nerds on a field trip!

Haha yeah the attachments don't always interact as they should - took a lot of effort to have a normin hanging off Mikleo's shoulder and then it just. Stays there. Floating in mid-air. Whenever he slightly moves. Oops XD; At least the one on his head stayed put! It just wobbles A LOT.

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: November 25, 2016, 04:26:52 pm »

Swimsuits are just an A+ addition to the game. Well that and the school uniforms, if only because it canonically calls Sorey and Mikleo out as giant nerds XD (I'm still laughing over the hair styles. Mikleo helped Sorey pick his so he's a dreamboat now! OKAY GAME THANKS FOR BEING SO SUBTLE ABOUT IT.)
What a great game, honestly. I mean. Maybe don't give Dezel sunglasses and stuff if you want to get the plot the first time but otherwise.

Wow you got the bad ending? Niiiice. Well, not so nice but nice that you got it, haha.

Fingers crossed for the acting scene! They do pull some great faces in the game, I can't wait to see them in more detail in the anime.

It's a good anime series! I just think the pacing choices are a bit odd and well, the last episode kinda  put a damper on it for me. But I definitely agree that the Edna and Eizen introduction is very nice compared to the game (and definitely more painful, OUCH), and it was good to see some more backstory for Alisha. Skipping tickle fights is unforgivable though, they better give those to us in S2.
Considering how quickly they announced it I'm gonna assume S2 is going according to schedule? Like, they just animated and recorded everything in one go? Oh well, we'll see!

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: November 23, 2016, 01:10:00 pm »
-cough- ahem belated Zestiria spoiler warnings oops XD;

(oh hey spoiler thingies work! Nice, now it's cut for length because I can't shut up ever.)

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Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: November 22, 2016, 12:28:48 pm »
I feel like I am morally obliged at this point to watch YOI, at least four people are more or less nudging me to do so by now, pff.
(I was gonna check it out anyway but after the series ends, dunno now. Maybe after the next episode I'll pick it up...)

Gosh, I'm so tired. And I really want to finish this one fic... it's been in progress for 7+ years and it's close to a quarter million words can I JUST BE DONE WITH THIS.

@kare_reiko: yeah, I share your unhappiness with the S1 ending of Zestiria - but I do feel Sorey and Mikleo's relationship is too important for the plot and their characters to take out. Though I do think they're under-representing their relationship in favor of Alisha (I love Alisha! I do! But there's a reason she gets a side story, since the main story isn't as much about her as S1 likes to pretend. I have a 20+ slide PowerPoint about this actually. I was slightly salty after the season ending...). They did change some things plot wise, but to take out Sorey and Mikleo's relationship would mean more than just a little plot twist.
Knock on wood since I'm not Ufotable and you never know, but I honestly doubt they're gonna take them away from us in S2. The manga also changed some things (and I'm sure the novels did too but I haven't gotten to those yet), but never these two and their bond. And hey, in the end, it was Ufotable who gave us the cut-scenes in the game to begin with.
... that being said, I WILL start an uprising if we don't get the Lastonbell scene in some manner or form, that stuff was GOLD.

@Weisel: oh geesh, you can't catch a break can you ._. I hope the plumber stuff works out...

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: September 06, 2016, 11:58:43 am »
@Weisel: yikes, yeah I can imagine how frustrating that must be... hopefully your hands will make a full recovery very soon!
Really liking your topic idea~ I'm not much of a cosplayer myself (closet cosplay is as close as I can get), but it's so great to see others having fun with characters they love. I hope there'll be a lot of responses!

@kare_reiko: Don't get me started, I already have a bunch of notes on this XD (It'd take a while to actually write it, I would basically be rewriting the whole No. 6 plot... Brevity what is that. Though uh Nezumi as a shepherd would be a nope XD I was thinking wind seraph for him actually. Still on the fence about Shion being a shepherd, but definitely a human with enough resonance to see them and probably pure enough to be a shepherd anyway.)
Yikes, take care though! O_o get the rest you need!

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: September 05, 2016, 02:21:30 pm »
@Weisel: glad you got out of the hospital at least, but take care! I hope you'll feel better soon and that the sudden weight loss will stop. Take care of yourself first!

@kare_reiko: I'm sorry but your comment made me laugh so hard - high five, 10000% same XD; I have a lot of trouble focusing on No. 6 these days due to Zestiria, oops. (Like I might... be planning a Zestiria AU... but........ plot ran away from me so I can't finish that in two days.)

But yeah, I'm guessing this September 7 will be rather quiet... maybe next year will explode? Actual year of reunion and all?

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: August 30, 2016, 01:30:39 pm »
@Weisel: yikes, that's quite the scare! O_o luckily you were in time to prevent a worse outcome then. Hopefully you'll recover quickly and safely and won't be needing that surgery!

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: July 18, 2016, 01:57:48 pm »
-carefully shuffles back in after a very long month-

@Ghosty: ahhh, that's so great! Fingers crossed for No. 6 merch~ Going in cosplay sounds like a lot of fun indeed, and bonus points for a Kenma cosplay ;) Have a great time!

Karan's Bakery / Re: Random NO6 talks
« on: April 24, 2016, 04:00:53 pm »
@Ghosty: ahh, interesting! There was actually a thread going on over here, though it didn't last long and that was quite a while ago, so it'd be nice to pick it up again perhaps. Maybe here  in this thread if you want to start from a different angle?

(I'd love to weigh in, but as much as I love Safu, I've only seen the anime once and that was some years ago. The most I remember is being torn because YAY MORE SAFU and BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE. I mean I love that we got to see her in No. 5 and get to see the 'real her' a bit more before sh*t went down (considering most of her own screentime in the novels was... well), but it took away from the time they could have used to explain the plot going on in No. 6 and instead they added this odd subplot where Safu seems connected to the Forest People/Elyurias before she's ever back in No. 6? I don't know if I remember correctly, I just remember being baffled.)

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: February 23, 2016, 02:28:51 pm »
@Ahiku: Forever frustrated over some of the director choices for the No. 6 voice acting, to be honest. I mean, Hosoya and Kaji were surprised themselves when they had to voice the younger versions of the characters, so maybe it was also a director choice to have Hosoya use a lower voice than his usual voice?

Hmm, yeah, in the new clip Karan sounds more like Shion's slightly cranky babysitter than his mother XD; Daww.
Gosh, I forgot how much of a general dork 12 year old Shion is. SCREAM HARDER CHILD.

OKAY YES SAVE THE BEES. As long as they don't hatch in your neck that is.
Screw wasps though << they can leave.

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: February 14, 2016, 11:33:44 am »
Geesh you sure picked a nice scene, huh XD ohhh I really like the voices though! And the overall quality is very professional, you could have told me it was the official German dub and I would have totally bought it.

Karan's voice is really nice, and Nezumi with a slightly higher voice is just. So much better, no offense Hosoya I love your voice work but yeah XD; It works fine for teenagers-who-look-much-older-than-they-are, but for Nezumi who should  be able to put on a female sounding voice... nooot so much, maybe. (I still swear his voice as Asahi sounds actually higher than his Nezumi voice, what the heck. And yeah his natural voice sounds a bit higher too...)

Forest Garden / Re: Chat thread :)
« on: January 24, 2016, 05:26:00 am »
Ah, I thought my laptop was just crapping out again, but the forum was indeed down then? Yikes.

Not much is gone from what I can tell, although this topic got locked for most people? I assume it wasn't intentional so I'm deselecting that checkbox, I hope that works. If it was intentional, please feel free to correct me!

@Weisel: I can see your icon, so either that got fixed too or maybe your connection was indeed slow. I hope everything works for you now!

Karan's Bakery / Re: Random NO6 talks
« on: December 05, 2015, 04:33:30 pm »
@kare_reiko: I think Kino just had to make choices here and there - you can't possibly use every single scene from the novel if you're adapting it into another medium, no matter how much you want to. The pacing would get really choppy for one thing, and some things (like extensive monologues and dialogues, which No. 6 has plenty of) just work way better in a novel than in a comic/anime. And she wasn't given complete freedom either, I doubt it - there's always editors and stuff who supervise and tell you to cut certain things. That's needed, because you develop blind spots for your own work. I think Kino mentioned with some of those pages that she was asked to cut them, actually, so that definitely plays a role. Every writer and creator has to make sacrifices in order to make the story work. It's also entirely possible Kino was given a limited amount of chapters from the get-go, so she had to scrap certain events right from the start to make it all fit, but I don't know about that.

As for the anime... I have no idea. The last volume of the light novels was published as the anime was running, true, but they definitely consulted Asano about the ending before writing it, so I have no idea why they made the choices they did. Part of it is probably interpretation by the anime staff. They emphasized other things than the novels did, and as a result cut out and expanded on different scenes. I don't think No. 6 had a huge budget, so that accounts for the limited amount of episodes, but... I have no idea on why they made some choices, I assume they had to know from the beginning they had only 11 episodes to work with. Why expand episode 1 so much that there's one entire episode dedicated to Shion and Nezumi as twelve year olds, adding events that were later referred to in new scenes they had to add for that purpose (like the sweater)? Why dedicate so much time to Safu's time abroad and then - do that to her character in the end? Why move Rou and his people out of the caves underneath the Facility?
I have so many questions.

Mostly though from what I've seen (not that I'm such an expert), Japanese anime get made while the manga is still running in order to cash in on the success of the manga. In many cases, the anime then overtakes the manga and has to come up with its own storylines - sometimes that works, sometimes it just... doesn't. And other times they take it easier and they stay faithful to the manga as it runs side by side, or the anime gets made once the manga is done. It's definitely a market thing, though. 'This manga is popular right now, let's cash in by making it into an anime!' Or 'This genre/story does well, let's make something almost exactly like it!' I mean, it'd be great if the main goal of an anime was 'let's make a faithful adaptation of this manga/novel and make the fans happy', but it's usually also a money thing. Making a pre-existing series into an anime means you have a guaranteed audience for at least the first couple of episodes, regardless of faithfulness or quality. It's not just a Japan thing - just look at the amount of adaptations Hollywood has been producing since pretty much the very beginning, for example. It's way easier to sell something people are already familiar with than something entirely new.

I don't have any insider information though so I'm just - rambling off what I think might be the case ^^;;;

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