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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2015, 08:16:53 am »
It's been quite a while since I read no. 6, but I hold the unpopular belief that Shion tops. tbh I can't see neither of them being actually submissive, except of Shion when he gets the hang of things. I just have a feeling that Nezumi would top at first, and that Shion, being the fast learner he is, takes over pretty quickly.

They still switch very often, (especially when Shion comes back from work after a long, tiring day, and Nezumi knows by now just how to make Shion feel a little better *wink wink*)

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2015, 09:44:22 am »
I also think that they'll switch a lot once everything settled down enough (aka Nezumi having enough trust and Shion loosing enough of his fears). Who tops and bottoms will be just dependent on the mood and how they feel and what they'd prefer at the moment and topping Shion is hot, not even Nezumi could deny that.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2015, 03:17:23 pm »
@Ahiku I was in sixth grade, waaaaay too young but I was very much into my adventure time phase and in denial that I liked gumshall and somehow it led to a very poor education in gay sex that came entirely from fanfiction.net

I'd never been able to picture them switching off before, but now I could see that being really nice. I had liked both topping Nezumi and topping Shion, but I'd never been able to see that they would switch off. I guess I should've known when it comes to No. 6 there's always a third option (ah yes my banter is terrific) though yea definitely it started pretty much with Nezumi always topping but after a while Shion would catch on

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2015, 03:58:57 pm »
Here are some questions this thread has left unanswered so far:

Oral sex - does that count as regular "topping" or do you think they'd "switch off" or whatever on that differently? Do you think they would prefer anal sex, oral sex, or handjobs? (Or... anything else you can think of...)
Does Eve have a place in their sex life or is that an absolute no? (I read a lot of fics where he does, so I thought I should bring it up)

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2015, 04:16:44 pm »
@Ghosty o_o What kind of stories did you read to think something like that, omg ^^į

BYYYY THE WAY!!!

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Oral sex - I think they both do this every now and then, but somehow I could imagine Nezumi doing it more often. To help Shion relax a bit... without expecting anything in return.
I also think he'd be the first one doing it. And Shion is curious...he'd like to try it out too. I think he'd love to coax sexy sounds out of Nezumi.
Ah, I don't think they'd have anal sex thaaat often...at least not when they have an established relationship. It's more like something for special occasions, since you need lube and time and you have to prepare the other one. (But I could imagine that...when they start to have sex, they will do it a lot, to sow their wild oats. Especially when they start having sex when Shion has a lot of free time. But I think he's pretty tired after work... and doesn't have that much free time either.
So they could have oral sex then or a handjob, and maybe...Nezumi is just giving him a nice massage and then they cuddle naked until Shion is falling asleep.)
(Ok, morning sex once in a while isn't too bad either. I guess they do everything. And anal sex is something special...being connected and stuff.)
Especially when their relationship is fairly developed, it's nice when they can do various things as the whim takes them.
Same goes for Eve. I think they'll include Eve, but not in the beginnng of everything. It's more like something for later, to pimp everything up. ^^ Ah...Shion wearing Eve's dress is also not too bad. XD I guess Nezumi would enjoy it too.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2015, 04:38:57 pm »
@Ahiku Ohhhh my god, that was so difficult to listen to. I can't imagine editing something like that. I mean, I love finding lines to piece together to make humorous audio files, but that... five whole minutes... I was crying and laughing so much my cat came over to check on me. (Also I agree a lot on your headcanons...)

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2015, 05:24:04 pm »
Okay, I'll just go with the form Ahiku suggested and answer everything one after another xD

Oral sex: I very much agree with Ahiku here - with Nezumi probably being the first one to bring it into the relationship as a form of giving Shion some attention without expecting anything back and Shion being curious enough to want to try it. But somewhere (and don't ask me where exactly I read a headcanon suggesting that Shion gets really good at oral sex and I just went with it because why not? If he's good at it and Nezumi likes it, they'd include it more often ...

Anal sex: Well, a bit like Ahiku said though it sounds like they have rarely ever anal sex the way you describe it and I'd say not every making out session ends in it but they'd do it occasionally not rarely. (Anyone who wants numbers? I'm a biology student, I always have numbers! Ehm ... ruely one out of three times I'd say xD) Uhm ... Not really sure it's probably a matter of mood again - about being satiesfied yet or wanting to get on another level which would mean to go all the way.

Handjobs: Well, I'd say that's the way they're most sexually active along with oral sex and anything in between (like grinding and such). Yeah, them just touching each other all over in a heap of limbs, okay?

Eve: Again, I agree with Ahiku and I very much enjoy fanfictions in which Eve occasionally spices up the bedroom time. But before that happens, they'd have to establish their relationship to a every deep level so I don't see it happening very soon after Nezumi came back. Maybe a year or two later ...
Because there's still this little headcanon of mine that Nezumi might fear that Shion is just as mesmerized by Eve as everyone else once he met her and that Nezumi himself won't be enough anymore. Of course for Shion, Nezumi is Nezumi, no matter in what disguise or form so there's really not much to worry about and the fantasy of the 'maiden in distress' just gives a special kick.
And yes, sometime, Shion's going to try on that dress and Nezumi is gonan experience what it does to Shion when he himself wears it *harharhar*

I'm sorry for any mistakes in wording or grammar; it's late, I'm going to bed and I'm too lazy to check words I were unsure if they're the right ones to use when I wrote this out ... And my internet is acting up, so bye *waves*

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2015, 05:35:09 pm »
I wonder how comfortable Nezumi with all of this at first? Any type of sex, I mean. I don't think he would like the idea of being vulnerable around Shion, at least at the beginning. I wonder if being away will change that? Maybe being away from Shion for so long would make it really hard to resist because of stupid Nezumi reasons.

I have to admit I don't think Eve would take part in their sex life. I had a discussion with @Lawlya about whether Eve even existed outside the anime, and I don't remember the conclusion, but I do remember Nezumi saying the theater in the West Block doesn't have money for props (such as expensive looking dress and makeup). Even if Eve did exist, I don't believed Nezumi enjoyed being Eve enough to use her for sex purposes, although I can totally see him convincing Shion to wear all types of dirty outfits ^^ The whole Nezumi as Eve thing is just me tho, I really can't come up with any reasons for Nezumi to dislike being Eve...

I'm having a hard time imagining the whole oral sex and handjobs thing, tbh. I know it's not reasonable, but it's just... NezuShi are my pure, adorable ship with angels and rainbows and fluffy unicorns.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 05:49:18 pm »
Eww ;_; Forum refreshed and killed my post, what the heck! >,< Not niceÖ
 
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Well, a bit like Ahiku said though it sounds like they have rarely ever anal sex the way you describe it and I'd say not every making out session ends in it but they'd do it occasionally not rarely.
Ah, okay, I didn't mean it like that. XDDD I...well...I just wanted to say it's nothing they'd do every day. But I wouldn't give it numbers. It's hard to say. XD It's not like: "Hey, Nezumi honey, it's Tuesday night... you know what I mean?" I think they have birthday sex and a lot of vacation sex, and sometimes morning sex, after show sex and sometimes stress-reducing sex and sometimes even: Wow, this new project of yours, very well done, nice job - sex...
I don't think they'll have it as often as handjobs or just grinding or Nezumi's skillful f and stuff like that. (And I think that they want to feel each other up nearly each day... XD) And when it's not thaaaat often, it's still something special.


@AoYokai:
Aww ;_;
Well, yeah, it's okay when you think like that. ^^ We're all just sharing our headcanons, it's not that we're trying to convince each other. And when you think that it's a  pure, adorable ship with angels and rainbows and fluffy unicorns it's also fine. X'D And I totally agree when I see them as teenagers. But well, when they grow up... they might have some needs... ^^

I think Nezumi would feel uncomfortable, but well, he had time to grow up and I guess he already knows that he's attracted to Shion. And one day it will just happen, totally naturally. And he won't think about it too much... even though he'd like to keep control about the whole situation.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 05:59:43 pm »
I just remembered! Last spring I was talking to someone about Nezumi's virginity in a post on tumblr. They said:

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There seems to be no fanfiction written from the possibility that Nezumi is not actually sexually experienced.

I get why itís such a popular assumption; nothing really suggests that Nezumi is a virgin while we have several suggestions that heís not. But Nezumiís prior sexual experience, or lack thereof, is ambiguous and no one ever seems to explore the other possibility.

Food for thought: Nezumi never confirms that heís had sex with anyone. Heís also incredibly clever and understands the value of sex appeal. Giving the impression that heís sexually experienced works in his favoróitís easier for him to charm people if they think theyíll get something in return. Heís well read and likely far more familiar than most inexperienced people are with sex.

Another interesting point: the kiss with the prostitute is played way up in the anime and the manga. In the novels, Nezumi isnít portrayed like some godly kisser capable of making even a **** blush; I get the feeling that this  (including some of Nezumiís comments to Shion about sex) is one of the main reasons people make the assumption that Nezumiís not a virgin, but keep in mind that Nezumiís also an actor and he has no doubt kissed people on stage before. Heís probably not unfamiliar with that, at least.

I donít know. Iím not trying to say he is or he isnít, just that itís deliberately ambiguous, but everyone seems to assume that heís sexually experienced and ignoring the possibility that he isnít. Personally, I think it would make for a really interesting fic: Shion thinks Nezumiís had prior partners because Nezumi has lead him (and everyone else) to believe that, but Nezumiís actually a virgin and the only things he knows about sex are in theory, not practice.

Personally, I have a hard time reconciling what I know of Nezumiís personality with the idea that he is sexually experienced. I canít see him doing it for his own enjoyment because heís a distrustful misanthrope (not to mention a pragmatist), and I canít see him doing it as a form of prostitution because everything he does in the novels suggests that heís smart enough to find a way around it.

So I went on to say:

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Iíve thought about these sorts of things, too, though I think thereís a few more angles to look at this from. Thereís the first assumption that heís not a virgin because of some of the things he says and vague implications. And then looking deeper like you did here, it makes more sense that he would be a virgin based on his true personality and nature. But then thereís even more to consider.

Yes, I think we can all agree itís pretty unlikely heíd turn to prostitution to get by, but thatís only one way of looking at it. Sex can absolutely be used as a tool, and a very persuasive one at that. So while I agree itís a long shot to say heís had sex directly for money, I still think itís more likely that heís not a virgin. I imagine heís been able to get a lot out of winning people over. We all know heís a real charmer, but thereís nothing like sex to really get a person under your thumb.

So what I think is that while heís never had sex out of his own sexual or romantic feelings, heís had sex with others who have those feelings towards him in order to gain something for himself.

I feel like a lot of fans would think ďNo, thatís not how it works! Nezumi would only have sex with someone he loves!Ē because itís common to have the idea that consensual sex is either love or prostitution with nothing in between. I think thatís maybe because the ages of No.6 fans covers an age group that shouldnít really have any experiences to make them think otherwise, which is fine! Donít rush yourselves, guys! Stay the innocent little angels you are! But what I mean to say is that itís hard to see all those grays in between unless youíve been there yourself.

So what Iím saying is that while Nezumi has never had sex based on his own feelings and hasnít opened up at all to another person that way, heís an experienced guy. He knows all the ways to make someone putty in his hands. Heís got that knowledge. Heís worked those grays in between without going all the way to flat out prostitution.

Though I bet heíd be all nervous his first time with Shion because itíd be his first time doing it out of his own desires and thatís a whole other game right there and itís giving me the warm fuzzies.

Thinking about it more now, I'd imagine that Nezumi's perception of sex has been tainted by his life in the West Block. The process of him learning to be more comfortable with sex would probably involve a lot from Shion, mainly really understanding Shion's intent (being closer to Nezumi than before, having the opportunity to make Nezumi feel good, etc...) through Shion's words and actions rather than Nezumi trying to figure it all out himself.

Also I think their first time doing anything beyond kissing would be initiated by Shion, but would be limited to just Nezumi touching. It'd be a matter of still having complete control of a situation that would probably terrify Nezumi otherwise.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2015, 06:10:44 pm »
@Ahiku yes happy Nezumi is happy me :D :D I really like the idea of it happening neutrally, and it's also connected to what was said about them not having sex the moment Nezumi returns.

I guess I could see one of them giving the other a handjob/blowjob when he wakes up hard or something? I think I read it in a fic I noticed there are much less fics for NezuShi that have anything other than what the DMMd fandom call vanilla sex. (maybe it's used in other places too and I just didn't see it so far..) Maybe I'm imagining it, but the only kink I've ever stumbled upon in this fandom is light bondage. And Eve. That might be one of my reasons of seeing them as a pure ship. I've seen some things I can never unsee in the DMMd fandom O.O

@Weisel that makes a lot of sense. Can you imagine Nezumi having a dream about Shion? Or feeling some sort of physical attraction? And afterwards, he will be really confused like the tsundere he is, trying to convince himself he's not attracted to Shion at all. Like, even if he did have sex before, it would be the first time he would like to have sex with someone because he has feelings for him.

After coming back, though, he will finally be able to voice his feelings. It will take time, but Shion will teach him to say what's on his mind. I still find reasons for both of them to be embarrassed about initiating something like that, and reasons for both of them to initiate without any problem. I just don't know T.T

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2015, 06:16:58 pm »
Okay, I'm not at all in bed yet but hey! I can write back my very short answer and check again tomorrow morning xD

@Ahiku: The numbers were meant as a joke though xD It's not like they're planning it out but I think I read to much into the "not too often"-part so ... everything clear now ;)

@Weisel: I actually remember that post :D It's somewhere on my blog with your answer and though I thought I'd be really interesting to see Nezumi as a virgin I agreed with your answer more. I just barely can imagine someone having enough sex appeal to stun a grown man speechless when that someone doesn't have any experience ... but maybe that's just me either.

@Aoyokai: I remember that talk ... but I don't remember the conclusion either. Wasn't your problem with Eve too that Nezumi might be conflicted about Shion wanting him or her? Or do I remember that wrong? Because I think we didn't get to a conclusion then if I'm right about this xD

Well, Nezumi would definitely be careful and I like the idea of his idea of sex being "tainted" to quote Weisel here. And yeah, the first advance would probably be from Shion who just can't hold back his feelings anymore (aka my exploding build up sexual tension from before xD) but he would let Nezumi lead.
Because I imagine Shion being very well aware of Nezumi's fears and boundaries when he's older and letting him decide how far they go - and I actually got a little idea written down somewhere on my computer that pretty much says that, during their first real making out session, Shion's too afraid to actually touch Nezumi back in fear of going too far and taking too much control ... Don't know if that was exactly what you meant but I'll just leave this here xD


EDIT: By the way: A confused Nezumi who doesn't know how to deal with his feelings (romantical or sexual) because "Hell, it's the first time I'm feeling like this, what the ****?!" is my life and joy.
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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2015, 06:19:21 pm »
In terms of the vanilla sex thing (which IS a term used elsewhere, I promise), I think Nezumi and Shion have both been a little too traumatized throughout their lives to find any other kind of sex very appealing. Think of some kinks and apply them to Nezumi and Shion and you might find that it wouldn't work out at all... Try restraining Nezumi? No way, Josť. I've only ever written Shion as the one interested in all to try things like that, and even he isn't too keen on a lot. (I do on occasion write him wanting Nezumi to do things like bite him and stuff, but nothing TOO wild...)

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2015, 07:30:28 pm »
@Lawlya
That... does sound like something I could say. It also sounds familiar so I might have really said that... But we also talked about whether Eve even existed, right? idk anymore ^^"
Not touching Nez's back sound like Shion :) Do you think Nezumi would realize? What would he say?

@Weisel
Yay now I know some slang in English now I can talk with the cool kids not that I can see a case where I'll talk about something like that in English in the near future...
ok ok ok but consider this: Shion hearing guys from work talking about all kinds of dirty things and thinking 'hey that might make Nezumi happy' or 'I wonder what that is' and ask Nezumi about it.

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Re: Nezushi sexcanon thread
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2015, 07:47:59 pm »
@AoYokai Vanilla sex is just a term for "boring" (though that's subjective) or "normal" sex, though it's a nicer term for it so it's used a lot instead of just saying boring or normal. For example, in one of my previous households, I lived with some pretty kinky people, but one of them didn't like any of that stuff, so she was laughing about it and saying "I have the most vanilla sex, but I love it!"
(Also I imagined it. Thanks.)
Shion: So, I don't know what a rimjob is, but I want to know if you're interested.
Nezumi: *spits out his coffee* YES-- I mean--