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Fanfiction Advice
« on: December 12, 2014, 03:04:32 pm »
Okay... So I thought that maybe it would be a good idea to have a thread where people could get advice when they are writing fanfictions. Like maybe fact check with people and stuff.

I wasn't sure where to put this, so I thought since it involves fanfiction, we could put it here? We can move it later if you guys think there is a better place for it.

Um, so I was hoping maybe someone would know which of the mice it is that likes Shion reading tragedies? I've tried looking through the books, but the place I found where it mentions the tragedies is before Shion names the mice.

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2014, 04:11:03 pm »
Oh, it's a good place to discuss something like that. :3

Hmm... I don't know for sure, but I guess it's Hamlet. The white one.
Ok, No. 6 Wiki also says that
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he likes to listen to him reading Hamlet, he also appears to like other Shakespear's books as well.
http://no6.wikia.com/wiki/Hamlet

Edit: Ahh... but I'm not so sure about that wiki. XD It also says:
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Nezumi's mechanical Mice inhabit the city. They are devices that Nezumi created to monitor or watch what is happening in No.6 city. With their appearence they can easily send messages or do different tasks. In the original novel Nezumi's first letter tells Karan that "Sion is safe, worry not. Escaped to West Block. Any replies to this mouse. Brown (Cravat) brings news of safety, black (Moonlit) brings news of change or abnormal occurrence,"

Eh...they aren't devices, they are his real mice. <,< Why should they eat cheese muffins and the dry looking cake Nezumi is giving them. ^^°

But I guess the Hamlet theorie is correct, since his name is so fitting.

« Last Edit: December 12, 2014, 04:14:09 pm by Ahiku »

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2014, 04:33:13 pm »
I think there's the three mice we know of that are real, and then there are others he uses that are robotic, like the one that talked to Shion when Safu was like "ey Shion let's get freaky." And I do believe it's Hamlet who likes tragedies (hence his name).

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 04:35:02 pm »
That is what I was thinking, but I wanted to make absolutely sure ^^; Thank you so much guys!

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2014, 02:29:40 pm »
Ooh, ooh, this is a bit off topic, but somewhere there's actually a reading list of all the books Shion read when he was with Nezumi!!
Hold on, I gotta give it to you, because I've been reading the books on it and they're actually pretty great XD

http://listenforthelove.tumblr.com/post/80688128029/shions-reading-records-no-6-complete-guide

Oh, look, it's from listenforthelove. Listenforthelove, you're my hero. x3

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2014, 02:44:51 pm »
Woah, great! O,O

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Oh, look, it's from listenforthelove. Listenforthelove, you're my hero. x3

You're also my hero! (*_*)

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2014, 02:53:49 pm »
@Ahiku: Ahh, I was wondering why I suddenly got a note on that post, haha. Glad to be of service~
Still surprised I couldn't find Hamlet on there, though. I'll take a look again next week, but those pages are super dark >_<

It was indeed Hamlet, by the way. From volume 3:

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A brown mouse poked its head out from Nezumi's shoulder. It jumped down on the floor, and scurried up Shion's body.
"Hamlet, did you come along too?" Shion said to it.
"Hamlet? What're you talking about?"
"It's his name. Because he likes to be read Hamlet out loud."

I keep forgetting, but Hamlet is brown in the novels. From the guide:

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Hamlet
One of Nezumi’s mice. It was named Hamlet as it loved tragedies and would often pester Shion to read him Shakespeare’s work. Its fur is light brown leaning towards grey.
▽volume 3, page 46.

@Weisel: I laughed out loud at your retelling of the robotic mice, hahaaa oh my gosh XD

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2014, 04:49:15 pm »
Oh, this thread is really a great idea :D I'll might have to come back to his for discussing a character design for my crossover fanfic since I can't decide whether my idea of the current design is actually good or not ... Do you think this thread could be used for this too?

And I distantly remember discussing with Ahiku once whether Hamlet or Cravat was the brown mouse and coming to the conclusion (based on listenforthelove's translation of the guide book) that there have to be two brown mice xD I was right ^^" That really confused me because Hamlet is white in the manga and anime >.>
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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2014, 04:50:16 pm »
DUUUUDE I never knew Hamlet was brown in the novels! How did I miss that??

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2014, 05:05:23 pm »
@lawlya: crossover fic?! I'm all ears~ This definitely seems like the topic for these kinds of discussions! Sounds like @this-is-our-truth's idea for originally creating this thread, after all.

@Weisel: it's only mentioned once or twice that Hamlet is brown, and all official art has depicted him as white, so it's super easy to miss. I doubt I would have caught it if it wasn't for the translations. I think Hamlet is still quite a bit lighter than Cravat, though. The mice have three different shades of grey (ahem) in their mission records (self plugging XD but it comes with scans here) and Hamlet is definitely the lightest, at any rate. The art just upped it by making him white and presumably easier to tell apart.
Oh well. Pretty much all character designs are at least slightly different from how they're described in the novels, so Hamlet as well I guess ;)

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2014, 06:01:15 pm »
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DUUUUDE I never knew Hamlet was brown in the novels! How did I miss that??

@Weisel
Me too (;_;)
The first thing I saw was the anime. And I don't remember it anymore, but I guess I was confused while reading it. XD To me, Hamlet will always be white.

@Lawlya
I don't remember that we discussed about the colors of the mice back then.... I'm getting old. OTL

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Ah, good to know. o.o

Ah, btw. I always wonder why Hamlet stayed with Shion in the anime. I mean, okay, they didn't use the last book. But they knew that one mouse is staying with Shion. Why not Tsukiyo...?
Is black paint too expensive? It's an absolutely unnecessary change. ^^°


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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2014, 06:07:50 pm »
Okay, so some of you might already know this (I don't know how clearly I spoke of this in the blog administration section ...) but: I'm writing a Madoka Magica x No.6 crossover fanfiction. Which means: No.6 characters in the world of Madoka Magica (so, if you don't know that anime, watch it! It's great and depressing ^^")

I more or less already gave each character a 'character role' from the Madoka universe and everything's set up. But I'm having problems with designing the assigned role for Elyurias to be honest.

So, Elyurias is, as we all know, this big wasp:


Yes, that's very clear. So, her assigned role is that of Kyubey or the Incubator:

Here's a link if you want to read a bit about Kyubey but it contains spoilers!

The role of this character is basically giving the Magical Girls in the original anime their powers by making a contract with them (not gonna tell you too much in case you haven't seen the anime). That's why it's basically the perfect role for Elyurias but you see ... if some big ass wasp came up to me and asked me to make a contract with them - I would cry bloody murder and run away as fast as I can.
I first thought about turning Elyurias into a bumblebee (since ironically, I'm a bit wary of wasps but am totally in love with bumblebees, okay?) but I'm not sure if that's any good. I'd like to keep the rather neutral face that can easily be interpreted as creepy and I think the face of an insect is kinda similar to that. But I'm entirely not sure if it would be a good idea to really make Elyurias an insect in this fanfiction and not rather a more ... cuddly thing.
(Of course you could always give her a sort of loan body that hides her true form which is an idea I'm rather fond of to solve this problem but I'm just kinda ... not good designing anything and usually need someone telling me if that's even a good idea ...)

Well, it would already help if you'd just tell me what you think of the whole matter. Or if you have any suggestions - pictures of Elyurias as Kyubey that popped up in your mind or something. Anything, really. Everything's helpful and who knows what I'm going to be able to work with ^^ (It's too late here; is that even a sentence??)



@Ahiku: It was over a year ago or so ... I just now remembered and that we never actually solved that problem (until now) xD
And yeah, I wonder ... why did they keep Hamlet? Because he had a better name? Because he had more screentime in the anime? Who knows ...
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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2014, 07:14:59 pm »
@lawlya: ahhh! I think I did see you mention it once or twice, actually, but I had no idea you were going to write a full fic. That's awesome! I have not (yet) watched Madoka, but I've been pretty thoroughly spoiled and read a running commentary blog on the series, so I kind of know what it is about. (This is gonna hurt a lot isn't it ;;; )
Hm, a bumblebee is a good alternative for Elyurias, though it highly depends on whoever is gonna see her how they'd respond to her (I think they're cute but I always freak out a little whenever I see one because 'OMG IS THAT A WASP oh no wait it's fluffy, phew'). Super fluffy and cuddly though. And less sting-prone than wasps <<
There are some moths that are pretty cute (in my opinion, anyway - I saw quite some people freaking out over them regardless), so maybe that's also an option if you want to stick to insects?
... Let me google that... Ah, 'pink fluffy moth', thank you google. XD This is the one I was thinking of.

@Ahiku: Guess Hamlet was singled out more in the anime? I think? I mean, Tsukiyo got quite some solo tasks in the novels and was quite different from the other two in that respect, but I don't really recall that happening in the anime...
Maybe they just thought he'd go well with Shion's hair or something.

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2014, 04:17:01 am »
(Depends on how easily you're hurt ... It's Madoka, what do you expect xD?)

Yeah, that was one thing I was unsure about - not everyone deems bumblebees less threatening than wasps xD But okay, good to see that it makes a difference to you ^^
Oh yeah, that moth is absolutely stunning! Thinking of Elyurias as a moth, I instantly thought of the colour gold ... Something like this maybe:


What do you think of giving Elyurias a sort of host body that they, as an alien species in the Madoka universe, created to protect their true bodies? Kyubey is still a rather mysterious character; you don't even know whether their bodies are their real ones or just puppets ... Each time one gets killed, another pops up - could be the same with Elyurias; everytime one of the host bodies is destroyed, you see a little black wasps escape before another appears nearby ...

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Re: Fanfiction Advice
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2015, 05:58:51 pm »
I just had such a hard time finding this thread because who's gonna search it in this board, really? Though it seems to make a bit more sense considering it's about fanfiction and yeah ... oh well.

So, this isn't anything really necessary and I'm definitely just fishing for ideas here but ...
I'd like you people to tell me how you would imagine to feel the presence of the No.6 characters - mainly Nezumi, Shion, Safu and Inukashi. What I basically mean are associated attributes. Sort of an aura.
I'd like to have three descriptions, if possible.

1. Brightness (you know: light, dark, grey, dawn, dusk; play with lighting.)

2. Taste (here, you could tell me something rather specific but I would be okay with simple directions such as sweet or spicy too.)

3. Sensation (something for the touch. Smooth, prickly, cold, warm. Something along these lines.)

Of course only if you like to do this at all :) But I would be really interested in your thoughts ^^