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Re: Timeline in No. 6 - help?
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2014, 07:50:52 am »
LOl XD It's okay... if it's right and they start their spring in January, September is definitely autumn. ^^

Yeah, I know it's the same thing, but when it's from this direction it should be a typhoon. XD I guess they also said Typhoon in the anime.

I also think it's Japan. Somehow, there was a world like our world in their past. In the anime when Safu visited the art museum they talked about England.
(But the climatic zone wouldn't fit... since it's green and warm there. But well...climatic changes... ^^° In the anime No. 5 seems to be warmer than No. 6, because she's wearing summer clothes, when she's back she's wearing scarf and coat.
But the houses remind me so much of European ones... (Ok, I can't say that much about other Europen countries, but it reminded me of a lot of cities in Germany. ^^ Red roofs, very green...)



For example... this one. (This is a little city in Germany...Querfurt.)


Or Nürnberg...


But it's just in the anime, I guess they never talked that much about it in the novels. o.o°

As for No. 6 - I think Tokyo would be just fine. When I visited Tokyo in 2008 it was February. Some days were really warm, some still pretty cold. (But when you regulate the temperatures it should be fine XD) We saw green trees and the first snow this year (there wasn't any in Germany oO in 2008) but there were also green trees and palm trees and some kind of oranges growing there... In February. And ume trees started to bloom. (And I just checked a couple of photos...some trees were green, some didn't have any leaves ^^°)
And we also had pretty cold days. So yeah... I guess that could be the right climatic zone, especially when you regulate the temperatures inside the city. In addition to that, the city is protected because of the wall. The West Block doesn't have any protection. You also have an urban heat island. Metropolitan area are often significantly warmer than its surrounding rural areas due to human activities.

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And you're right, cold is also relative. If you're raised to think 15 C is cold, then you'll pick up a winter coat much sooner than someone who is raised to think -10 C is just peachy, so to speak, and having no place to stay and hunger definitely won't help against freezing.

Yeah, right. They don't have proper clothes or food... So I guess even 2-5 degree Celsius would be really troublesome, especially for toddlers and old people.

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Nezumi definitely had to recover from his wounds, you're right. GOOD that means he stays longer let's go with that << (I think your fanfic leaked into my headcanon a bit as I started to assume accelerated healing powers, but I don't think those are canon? Not explicitly, anyway. I still have thoughts about people having some extra powers in No. 6 but that's for another thread.)
... nezumi slipping up and calling Karan his mother is something I NEED.

Ah, you mean Forest of Tranquility? o.o Ah yeah, that's totally not canon. XD Just like Inukashi said... he's just a man. When you stab him he'll bleed. He's just horribly tough, I mean he just had a surgery and nearly died, he recovers quickly. But I think it's just because of his survival instincts. He has no time to recover, even though his body could need time. Just like Inukashi and her toe...licking her wounds until they get better and ignoring it. (Or until she's dead.^^°)
And this time it wasn't just a graze shot.

I just tried to google how long a "normal" gunshot would take to heal...
And it seems as if it's not just 1-2 weeks.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070807225738AAejqxC

But well, Nezumi's tough. XD But I guess he needed at least 2 weeks to recover. But more is better, so 4 weeks? XD (Ahh, why didn't he stay... being with Karan and Shion... eating good food all the time. As long as there's no theatre he can still help Karan... XD Stupid Nezumi >,<)




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Re: Timeline in No. 6 - help?
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2014, 10:35:43 am »
Yeah, I guess Japan is the most likely setting for No. 6 to assume, not only because the novels are originally Japanese but also for the reasons you stated. Tokyo seems to make the most sense as well, though I now wonder if there's a real-world equivalent for the Mao forest, hmm.

Hm, yeah, No. 5 in the anime is interesting... if it seems so summer-y, it should be below the equator if No. 6 is above and seems to go through winter at the same time? (that does look sort of inspired by Sydney in the first cap, actually.) Thanks so much for your screencapping efforts!
I must confess I've only seen the anime once, so I remember very little about No. 5 there. I don't think the novels even stated to which city state Safu moved...
 
Anyway, I went back and the only names I can find so far mentioned in the novels are pretty broad, namely Central and South-America:

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They were documents concerning a species of ants called Eciton burchelli, which inhabited Central and South Americas.
(volume 3, chapter 5)

As for the rest, some bits about No. 6 itself:

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Was the western town the only place No. 6 had destroyed? What about the northern mountains, the forests, the grassy plains that stretched from south to east, the lakes and marshes that dotted the land from eastern to western edge? Considering No. 6's geographical area, it was logical to think that it had enlarged in all four directions, roliferating and expanding... (...) In the northern mountains, the southern plains, the eastern marshes.
(volume 6, chapter 1)

I don't think a sea is ever mentioned, and Tokyo is relatively close to the coast, but then again - not like you can really see the sea from Tokyo.

Oh and Beyond states:

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The label on the bottle indicated that the wine was from the western-most city of No. 3

... which is entirely unhelpful aside from the fact that we now know No. 3 is most west when seen from No. 6 XD


... wait did I never leave you a review for Forest of Tranquility
what the heck, self
But yeah that's what I meant XD; oops. Yeah, Nezumi is surprisingly quick in getting back to his feet near the end, but I think it's caused by the adrenaline and also the fact that Nezumi does really seem to have an uncanny ability to tell when trouble is nearing. He said it himself, and the novels do back him up  there (Inukashi was ****ed Nezumi sensed something first when they were in the clinic for example).

That being said he should have totally stayed to let his wounds heal properly and just indefinitely after that << just go on holidays if you need time to sort yourself out Nezumi don't go all '~I'm a wanderer you're stationary we can't work out ever~' sigh. THIRD WAY. Yes I'm being slightly unreasonable here but dang.

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Re: Timeline in No. 6 - help?
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2014, 01:06:19 pm »
Yeah ... I once read that Japan has usually quite hot summers and really cold winters too. So it would fit. And considering the snow - I think if they said the ground was frozen over it would be cold enough for snow. Doesn't mean it actually had to snow.
And when Shion and Nezumi talked about summer in West Block, they said that it's quite hot if I remember that correctly. So all in all, Japan seems reasonable.

Well, if No.6 is in Japan and No.3 is the most western from there you could assume that No.3 is in America xD That's an information! (Cherish all the rare information you get on locations, really ...)
And yeah, it seems that the ocean is quite distant. I haven't finished the novels yet but I think Inukashi once mentioned that Nezumi told stories about the sea and that he was there? So it shouldn't be too far away? I don't know?

I see, the conversation took the same direction my thoughts had when I concluded that Nezumi must have stayed quite some time with Karan and Shion - If you stayed this long, don't leave, you idiot! Just stay; you were fine for so long ...
Just imagine Shion, having experienced a sort of 'every day life' with Nezumi and then he's GONE OTL

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Re: Timeline in No. 6 - help?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2014, 02:33:26 pm »
Yeah, it's true - at least Tokyo had a pretty hot summer when I was there in 2010, and I think that's pretty common climate there anyway. I usually assume country of story origin if it's never stated in a story, which seems likely in No. 6's case indeed. Ah right, Shion did go on and on about spending summer there and how it'd be too hot to cook inside... And of course Nezumi had to leave in spring. Golly.

Ah yes! No. 3 is most likely America then, I - think. Though it really depends on how you look at the world map I suppose, ack. (I realized very late in life that while Europeans put Europe in the middle of maps, the USA at least puts the Americas in the middle. Which makes perfect sense. I just. Never realized that.)
Oh, right, I think Inukashi mentioned something of the sorts indeed... Whales, wasn't that conversation about whales? Whales were involved somehow? Hang on.

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Inukashi had neither touched nor seen a whale before. He didn't even know what the ocean was like. The world that Inukashi knew was limited to the ruined hotel and its surroundings. For as long as he could remember, he had lived within those boundaries.
(volume 5)

Ah, that's... not very helpful, Inukashi. XD; So no ocean directly around the hotel, got it.


Yeah, it really sounds like Nezumi stayed for quite a bit with Shion and Karan... which makes it all the harsher that he decided to leave after all. Not a rash decision then. Dang.